Tactics of false teachers

Pastor DL Foster had an important post on the tactics of clerics in the gay Christian movement.  It highlights the patterns of deceptiveness used to infiltrate a church and manipulate the members before “coming out.”  Sadly, the process is quite effective. 

It applies to heterosexual false teachers as well, of course.  They lie at their ordination vows about essentials of the faith or change their minds later but don’t have the integrity to resign.

Here’s a story on Beth Stroud, a defrocked United Methodist pastor.  Her congregation took the bait and gave her standing ovations when she finally (sort of) told the truth.  Her whole charade was documented and shown on PBS, which give more proof of its premeditation.

I think a more reasoned and orthodox response from the congregation to Ms. Stroud would have gone like this:

Beth, we love you and want the best for you.  But you deliberately and repeatedly lied to us.  You also lied at your ordination vows.  You befriended us and did many “good deeds,” but now it appears that they were done out of deception.

To make matters worse, the manner in which you came out positions you as the victim and us as “bigoted homophobes” and the like.  All we did was live by Biblical principals and the Methodist Book of Discipline.  You knew what we believed when you joined us.  But you lied, over and over.

You should repent of your deception and the harm done to the church and denomination.  You should resign effective immediately and not subject the church and the denominaton to further costs and damage.  Your selfishness has already caused a great deal of harm.  The Christian thing to do now is to stop.

Screwtape lives, and one of his most effective methods is false teachers like this. 

Jude 4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

6 Responses

  1. Hi Neil,

    Looking at google pictures of Beth makes you feel for her. I mean – as far as you can tell – she wants to do what God wants… follow her love for Christ and her love for her partner. She seems sincere – except for lying on her ordination as you point out. I wouldn’t mind if she came out and said: Methodists are wrong and this is why… but to continue calling herself a Methodist when she disagrees with their rules and regulations is insincere. Does she still call herself a Methodist?

    Conflict resolution is a struggle for all Christian leaders. You have those verses from Paul about love… love is this, and that,,, but then you have those verses that clearly show love takes no prisoners. A loving father knows about discipline, and love cannot stop wishing the removal of all infirmities.

    Not all of us should wish to be teachers…

  2. Good “letter” Neil. I stated something very similar to Dean Snyder over at untiedmethodist back when this was in the news.

    We would be naive to think that these “outings” are unplanned and not strategic. It is sad the church doesn’t recognize it and deal with it properly.

    Of course, it is difficult to have proper church discipline when the church doesn’t have proper membership, but that is a discussion for a different day. ;-)

    tr

  3. One thing I found very interesting about the entire Beth Stroud situation, which there were very few comments about, was the fact that PBS was there to film the entire thing from start to finish (her coming out). Unless we are expected to believe that PBS just happened to pick her church to examine during this episode the entire thing smelled of a well engineered set-up by the LGBT folks. I think Stroud was dishonest about more than her ordination vows.

    Also strange how the only folks interviewed & put on camera were those supportive of her position. It’s a shame that there was no PBS special on the aftermath in that church or what happened to the folks who disagreed with what went on.

  4. Good points, Woz. The whole thing looked rather choreographed. Probably just spectacularly lucky timing on the part of PBS, right? :-)

  5. It’s funny that you all seem to talk about how Beth lied and that PBS was a conspirator. PBS showed a documentary filmed by someone else. Coincidence or Conspiracy…why don’t you ask the people that filmed it…or go out on a limb…talk to Beth. Something that everyone seems to be missing is that the church Defrocked Beth and reinstated a “minister” that refused to allow membership to a gay man. Now, if I’m not mistaken, the slogan “Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors” is just slightly contradictory to both of those acts of the judicial council. If you disagree with something that the government does, do you continue to call yourself an American? Do you stay in America? Or, if you disagree with something, do you stay where you are and work for change? Personally, I would stay where I am and work for change. I am a very open minded person, and one thing that really does bother me is people that are horridly closed minded. Like I said before, why don’t you go out on a limb and actually talk to Beth. She’s not the devil you seem to think.

  6. Hi Amy,

    Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

    If PBS just showed the documentary filmed by someone else, then you have a good point. They wouldn’t be as culpable, but it would still show how choreographed it was. I appreciate the clarification.

    The issue of the minister refusing membership to a gay man is deeper than just that. There are plenty of gays in the UMC. My understanding is that this guy had more of an “in your face, God” approach. It is hard to accurately assess because the church didn’t give out many details.

    The Open Hearts/Minds/Doors slogan is just that: A slogan. I thought it was pretty weak, personally. It obviously didn’t mean that unrepentant sinners would be accepted as members.

    I’d be glad to talk to Beth. I’d tell her what I put above. She had a dialogue on the old WeslyBlog site a while back. I hope she has a nice life. I just think she’d be better off if she repented of her lifestyle and the damage she has done to the church.

    Re. working for change: I have no issue with that if it is done honestly. But using your illustration, until you convince the gov’t to change a law it is still the law.

    Peace,
    Neil

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