I thought I would highlight this love note from a recent commenter as an example of why I am moderating comments more in 2009. In short, I’ve found that my discernment is remarkably accurate in determining when conversations won’t be productive. God has given me so many things and I need to be a good steward of them all, including my time.
Long time readers know that alternative views are welcomed here provided that they are communicated in an adult manner. I do hold those who claim to be Christians to a higher standard, and have borrowed Carlotta’s policy on that:
For Believers – An intentionally different standard applies to those who name themselves followers of Christ: persons who claim to be believers in Jesus Christ yet bring manifestly false teaching on basic doctrines of the faith, and/or promote evil acts are not welcomed into discussion here.
I didn’t let this guy’s first comment through because it included pointless insults. Then he added this second comment, which manages to cram in multiple logical fallacies and insults at the same time its very premise self-destructs. Sadly, this is pretty common from the pro-materialistic Darwinists. I expect these whenever I post anything on Intelligent Design or criticizing Darwinian evolution.
You like to delete postings that cut through your web of lies, don’t you?
No more need to prove that people who reject evolution in favour of creationism are among the biggest idiots in the world.
They are completely immune to fact and reason and dishonest to the bone. The scum of all religious believers.
First, he begs the question by stating that I have a “web of lies.” He should demonstrate that first, but of course he can’t. At worst, I could be mistaken on some points, but I have not lied about anything.
He has several ad hominem fallacies (attacking the person, not the content of their arguments). Those are always telling.
He claims I am immune to fact and reason but I welcome anyone to scan my hundreds of posts and come to their own conclusion. Christianity requires and applauds the use of reason. Or just consider this post. I have analyzed his views from various angles but haven’t called him a liar, an idiot or scum and haven’t said he was immune to fact and reason.
But here’s the fun part: If his worldview is true, then none of his comment makes any sense. It completely self-destructs.
After all, if he is correct that the universe came from nothing, life came from non-life, Darwinian evolution explains how we got here, etc., then there this process is responsible for my Christian worldview. Fancy that! Darwinian evolution led me to “imagine” that I see evidence for the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, the existence of God and the accuray of the Bible. And not just any evidence – I see cosmological, teleological, moral, logical, historical, archeological evidence and more (see the apologetics section to the right for more).
As always, his worldview can’t adequately explain the Christian worldview, but the Christian worldview can explain his:
Romans 1:18-20 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
And if his worldview is true, why would dishonesty be a bad thing? Where is his universal morality coming from? He obviously thinks there is such a thing as morality and that I should be held accountable to his version of it, but why?
And where does “reason” come into play? If everything in the universe has a material cause, then why would we think in terms of reason or logic, which are clearly immaterial.
And he makes the same mistake most Darwinists do: Even if Darwinian evolution were true, it still wouldn’t explain the start of the universe and the origin of life and it wouldn’t explain away God like its proponents want it to. I don’t think that theistic evolution is supported by the facts, but even if Darwinian evolution were true it doesn’t mean that God doesn’t exist.
And then there’s the irony of him complaining about me not posting his comment. If it is a moral flaw on my part not to post his insulting comment on this little blog, I wonder how he reacted to the movie Expelled! Actually, I don’t wonder, as I’m pretty sure I know his reaction (based on the reaction of all the other Darwinists).
But of course deleting his comment merely cost him a few keystrokes. It wasn’t like I damaged his reputation or cost him his job or his tenure. So is censorship bad or not? If it is bad to delete a comment on a blog then what much of the scientific and academic community is doing is really, really bad, even by his standards.
So in conclusion, please save us all some time and don’t leave comments like that.
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Isn’t it possible to believe in the Creator AND believe in (some) evolution?
Not the ape-man evolutiion thing. For the “missing link” to have remained the only thing missing for so long (I believe) disproves the ape-man evolution.
Additionally, why would evolution allow some apes to remain apes while others evolved into humans. Seems inherently unfair to… well, depending on your point of view man or ape.
However, I believe that it is equally unreasonable to believe that there is no evolution at all.
I believe that God created all things with the ability to adapt to it’s changing environment. Hence, evolution of sorts.
Just my (correct) opinion.
Hi Mssc54,
Thanks for visiting and commenting.
I think you are on the right track in defining evolution more specifically. A lot of conversations get derailed when folks use different definitions. I agree that we see evolution within species via minor adaptations.
Macro-evolution (ape-man) vs. micro-evolution (some Gypsy moths will have black spots and be eaten; some don’t and won’t, so the species adapts by natural selection). Sorry if I’m getting the details mixed up – it’s early. But as I recall, Philip E. Johnson talked about that in “Darwin on Trial”, as did biologist Jonathan Wells in “Icons of Evolution”.
I don’t think I’ve ever gotten into an Evolution debate (and really wouldn’t care to), but I agree with mssc54 distinguishing between macro (one species to another) and micro (change within a species).
Maybe you could make a page devoted to crazy comments? Just cut and paste them into their own little page. It would be great for an occasional laugh.
Oh, that would be great fun! I’ve got a few I could contribute……once a drive-by commenter told me that I shouldn’t have had children and that I was too stupid to know how to use birth control, because of an entry I did mocking the self-esteem agenda (they’d had a speaker in school telling them Mother Teresa was great because she believed in herself).
Oh, I should re-post that entry and see what happens. I’m sitting here all day editing my pastor friend’s book and I’m getting bored (could’ve been worse; I was supposed to drive to Boston and we had another ice storm). I need some entertainment.
Let’s all submit the rudest, dumbest comments we’ve ever received, just for laughs.
Good idea. Let’s save ‘em for a couple months then I (or anyone else) can do a post and solicit the submissions.
It is possible to believe in some evolution and a creator. The Bible is not a book about how to create a universe.
When one of the history teachers at the high school started teaching his version of intelligent design, I started getting questions from my students. So I started studying. When I was in college, I became convinced that evolution at least of lesser creatures was compatible with the Bible, I have not changed my mind on that. But I have become convinced that the evidence does not support the theory of evolution. I also think that the term micro-evolution is misleading. I haven’t studied all cases, but in the ones I have examined what is happening is not evolution at all, but systems doing what they were designed to do.
I currently think of myself as an old-earth creationist. But I have recently come across some evidence that makes me think I have to stop rolling my eyes at the young earth creationists.
Mainly, I tell my students that it really doesn’t matter how we all got here. The important thing is that God was responsible for it, and we should try not to put trivial details in anyone’s way as a stumbling block.
Back on topic, when I am not too frustrated, I find it sad that so many people can’t seem to open their eyes.
I am haunted by the cry of one confused young atheist who said, ‘If there is a God, why doesn’t he show himself to me?”
Yet he couldn’t believe that God was right there to do it, if he would only open his eyes.
*sucks through teeth*
You’re so mean Neil!
I would dare say let it all flow! You are very much like Christ Jesus in keeping the conversation on track, not taking things personal, welcoming non-belivers for discourse, loving us regardless of agreement..a Jesus Blog if you will.
I’ve learned much from you, DJ BlackAdam, Sunday School Teacher, and countless others on the importance of agreeing while disagreeing in LOVE. The last step for us? To really BE like Jesus by focusing less on practice and more on revealing our Father.
Mizclark, you are too kind!
P.S. I thoroughly enjoy DJBA, SST and the rest as well.