Please read all of New undercover Planned Parenthood video from Lila Rose. We already knew that in addition to their serial hiding of statutory rape and millions of dollar in profits from abortions that Planned Parenthood was evil. Now more of their lies have been documented.
This isn’t about choice, it is about killing unborn human beings for profit. It isn’t about choice, it is about manipulation. They lie to women because they know that the more informed they are the less likely they are to pay PP to have their unborn children destroyed. That doesn’t sound like real feminism to me.
“A fetus is what’s in the uterus right now. That is not a baby.” Dr. Polhaska, the abortion doctor, insists, “It’s not a baby at this stage or anything like that.” Polhaska also states that having an abortion will be “much safer than having a baby,” warning, “You know, women die having babies.”
A mix of lies and deadly equivocations. Is it a baby? Technically she is a fetus, but what kind? Canine? Bovine? Undetermined? Of course not. She is a human fetus — aka a human being.
I am not surprised that non-believers support organizations like Planned Parenthood, though thankfully many see their evil for what it is. But I am disgusted at the ignorant and/or fake Christians who do so.
Lila Rose’s Rosa Acuna Project apparently has more videos to come. How much undercover investigation does Lila Rose have to do before people stop excusing the evil of Planned Parenthood?
Planned Parenthood stands to benefit mightily if the health care bill is passed. It is pure pro-abortion all the way, forcing pro-lifers to pay for the abortions. I hope you are working to stop them.
Don’t forget to talk to your senator:
http://action.aul.org/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=SplashPage&id=379
Mine wrote me back, pretty sure it was a form letter for those that disagree with abortion, but it was a reply nonetheless. Im forming a reply, maybe someone will read it.
Why will planned parenthood benefit from free health care? Do countries with free health care have higher abortion rates? This one doesn’t, and they’re free here. In fact, parents find it far less costly to have children, since we don’t need to pay a doctor to deliver them and treat them when they are sick. That gives more people better alternatives to abortions.
Ryan: free health care? Free? Like no one needs to pay the doctors, nurses, or hospital staff? Drugs, beds, infrastructure, and equipment doesn’t cost anything?
In actuality, “free” health care reduces people’s ability to have children, since the crushing tax burden makes it difficult for employers. The last groups to be hired are always the young and uneducated. Young adults, faced with limited job prospects, defer child rearing until their 30s (or later).
In fact, Ryan, in countries with “free” (i.e. expensive beyond belief) health care, fewer people choose to have children.
Are you actually saying you don’t know what I meant by free? If you require clarification, I meant free in the sense that all are able to access it without personal financial burden – but you knew that, and tried to make me look like an idiot anyway.
It is a fact that pregnant women are getting tests early on to determine potential or actual health problems of the baby. If, after a major diagnosis, the mother is faced with a life of expensive medical treatment, would keeping the baby not be a more likely choice for those that do not need to bear that burden by themselves?
If public health care is, as a rule, more expensive, why does the US spend more money on health care than Canada, despite putting most of the burden on the individual?
And you know that there is a causative correlation? You think that more people have children when they have to pay for the whole process? I don’t buy that at all. In countries with public health care, the infrastructure is in place for families to have children with far less burden.
I don’t agree with that. Uneducated maybe, but that goes for all age groups. If anything, older people have more trouble finding work when unemployed, and unskilled.
Ryan,
Can parents kill children outside the womb who get too expensive?
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No Neil. They can’t. I know you disagree with abortion, but it’s legal for now, so we all agree that people can legally have abortions. I’m arguing that better health care options for mothers may prevent abortions from happening, and that is something we can both agree is a good thing.
You changed the subject. Your point was that it was acceptable to kill innocent human beings to avoid future medical costs. That’s twisted.
Falling back on the “but abortion is legal” line is irrelevant and also twisted thinking (slave owners could have made the same claim).
Holy crap Neil, I just offered a way that I think may reduce abortions.
How about outlawing them Ryan. That would reduce them, and besides, murder is already outlawed for those who have escaped the womb regardless of their financial burden. That is if you’re really interested in reducing them.
Yeah, I’m not really interested in another abortion debate here, but if you keep calling those who think that a small number of abortions might be okay murderers, you remove the ability to have a discussion about any issue.
The vast, vast majority of abortions destroy innocent human beings who don’t fit your arbitrary definition of personhood.
Point taken, I’ll try not to do it again; but question. If a a dog’s tail was renamed a leg, how many legs would he have?
You didn’t answer the my question though. If you’re against abortion, why not be in favor of outlawing it.
I’m not against it as a rule. I think it is too often used as a “convenience” and I think people need to be more sexually responsible. That said, I can’t find a moral problem with aborting a foetus at a very early stage, before any nervous system has formed, so I have no problem with this being offered as an elective procedure.
You are morally schizophrenic.
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Do you have any proof or something on those lines that would back your assertions?
We all want better health care, that’s not in debate. We just want it without tax payers paying for the killing of children. Since as you say abortion is legal currently then let those that want an abortion to pay for it out of their own pockets or find insurance that will pay for it, a non-government option.
I agree with you. Abortion should be paid for by the individual. I’m not arguing for free abortions. It’s almost always elective.
AWESOME:
“In actuality, “free” health care reduces people’s ability to have children, since the crushing tax burden makes it difficult for employers. The last groups to be hired are always the young and uneducated. Young adults, faced with limited job prospects, defer child rearing until their 30s (or later).”
Speaking as a man, Theo’s comment is music to my ears. I worry so much that no one understands how discouraging high tax rates can be to young people who are thinking about marrying and having children. We can’t do it while still paying for everyone else’s elective surgery. I will spare you all from my list of elective surgeries covered by countries with socialized health care. You wouldn’t believe it.
I know plenty of people having kids in both Canada and the US, and the biggest worry of either by far is Americans worrying about health insurance. One family I know has been told that their future children are not eligible for health insurance because they had a previous child die of a rare cancer that can be genetic.
How much of my taxes do you think go to pay for “elective” surgery? Maybe a hundredth of a percent? Even if you take the entire Canadian health care costs (which are lower per capita than in the US) out of my taxes, it would be the equivalent of a 5% raise, which I would need to spend on health insurance. How would this affect my choice to have children?
If this is stopping a person from having children, then he doesn’t really want children.
Since I live right next to Canada I have seen a lot of Canadians that come over here to the US to get medical care. There have been several who due to their illness would have died before their “number” came up to be seen by the doctors.
There are definitely things better about their health care, but there are some horrible short falls with it also.
We’ve got lots of problems, but people about to die are not denied treatment, and anyone with a life or limb threatening situation is given top notch care pretty much immediately.
There’s a lot of propaganda in the US about our Canadian system and most of it is dead wrong.
I really can’t speak one way or the other. I can only repeat what my canadian friends have told me. One her grandfather was sick and couldn’t be seen until several months in the future, so they decided to come here and get checked and sure enough if they would have waited he would have died by the time he could get in to see the doctor.
That happens here also at times and maybe it’s an isolated case, but it made my canadian friend think twice about their system.
This really is off topic though. I think we all know that there are benefits and risks associated with each health system type and that is why we’re all trying to find ways of having a better system.
And as many have said here.. a better system that does not use tax payers dollars to fund abortions. And that’s not even talking about the massive amounts of debt the government is going to have if it gets into health care the way it is going at this point.
In the Bible it says that the debtor is slave to the lender, even if you do not believe in the Bible, most everyone can agree to this. It is scary when you look at exactly who is lending the USA money. The price tag on this health care that is being proposed is insane and who do will we owe to pay for it?
PP is in line to get big bucks from the bill. More PP perversions in public schools. More abortions for those who can’t afford to destroy their kids.
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Wait till you see my 4 AM post! Eeeeps!
For more on the agenda of Planned Parenthood watch the 2 hour recently released and fully documented film: Maafa21 which exposes the real racist and eugenic agenda of abortion. Short clip here: http://www.maafa21.com
Also clips here: http://saynsumthn.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/glenn-beck-pastor-stephen-broden-and-maafa21/