Churchgoers who support “same-sex marriage” are identical to the world

This is a devastating but unsurprising summary of their views.  The data is right here.  While comparing the first two columns of numbers is illuminating, what really stuck out to me the similarity of the 2nd and 3rd columns.  Note how the churchgoing people who support SSM are nearly identical to the population average in every category.  These churchgoers are even more pro-porn and pro-abortion than the average person!  Regnerus-Graph

This is just more confirmation of one of the theological Left’s biggest lies, namely that we are just misreading the Bible on the verses about homosexuality.  But if that was the case, these “Christians” who support SSM should at least be more aligned with us than with the world when it comes to porn, abortion, divorce, etc.  And keep in mind that two out of the three types of pro-gay people* (religious or not) agree with Bible-believers that homosexual behavior is a sin.

Please read this carefully and note how it perfectly describes churchgoers who support SSM: 1 John 2 15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world.

I wish they would have added a question about whether Jesus is the only way to salvation.  That is a simple litmus test, because it is taught over 100 times in the New Testament.  Anyone who disagrees with that should not claim to be a Christian.  In my experience there is remarkable correlation between pro-SSM people and those who deny the exclusivity of Jesus for salvation.  So you can test their authenticity without even bringing up the LGBTQX topic.

The theological Left and its false teachers love the world, not God.  They have access to the truth but delight in living out the opposite, and blame others for the incredible destruction caused by violating God’s guidelines for sex.  If it weren’t for them, abortion would be illegal, Planned Parenthood would not get taxpayer funding, schools wouldn’t be teaching pro-gay propaganda, and we wouldn’t be losing our religious freedom, parental authority and freedom of speech at such an alarming rate.

Churchgoers who support “same-sex marriage” are identical to the world. In other words, they don’t appear to be Christians.

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* The three general types of pro-gay theology people:

  1. “The Bible says homosexuality is wrong but it isn’t the word of God.” (Obviously non-Christians)
  2. “The Bible says it is wrong but God changed his mind and is only telling the theological Left.” (Only about 10 things wrong with that.)
  3. “The Bible is the word of God but you are just misunderstanding it” (Uh, no, not really.)

“Same-sex marriages” — redefining marriage and fidelity

Via Many Successful Gay Marriages Share an Open Secret – NYTimes.com.

New research at San Francisco State University reveals just how common open relationships are among gay men and lesbians in the Bay Area. The Gay Couples Study has followed 556 male couples for three years — about 50 percent of those surveyed have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners.

That consent is key. “With straight people, it’s called affairs or cheating,” said Colleen Hoff, the study’s principal investigator, “but with gay people it does not have such negative connotations.”

Of course not!  That is the dirty little secret of the gay world: They will have literally hundreds of sex partners over the course of their lives, often anonymous.  How soul-crushing is that?  It does explain why gays have 40+ times higher rates of Syphilis and HIV, partly because 62% of men who know they are HIV-positive have unprotected sex with men  .  Meditate on that for a moment.  How evil and vile do you have to be to knowingly risk infecting others with a deadly disease, just because you don’t want to wear a condom when having sex?  That is one of the most profoundly selfish acts imaginable, yet the mainstream media and “comprehensive sex education” classes never tell you about these things.

None of this is news in the gay community, but few will speak publicly about it. Of the dozen people in open relationships contacted for this column, no one would agree to use his or her full name, citing privacy concerns. They also worried that discussing the subject could undermine the legal fight for same-sex marriage.

Yep.  You wouldn’t want the truth to get in the way of the agenda.  Just go watch some more episodes of Modern Family, people.  Nothing to see here.  Whatever you do, don’t apply critical thinking skills or the Bible.

According to the research, open relationships almost always have rules.

That is how it works for Chris and James. Over drinks upstairs at the venerable Twin Peaks Tavern in the Castro neighborhood of San Francisco, they beamed as they recalled the day in June 2008 that they donned black suits and wed at City Hall, stunned by the outpouring of affection from complete strangers. “Even homeless people and bike messengers were congratulating us,” said Chris, 42.

A couple since 2002, they opened their relationship a year ago after concluding that they were not fully meeting each other’s needs. But they have rules: complete disclosure, honesty about all encounters, advance approval of partners, and no sex with strangers — they must both know the other men first. “We check in with each other on this an awful lot,” said James, 37.

Oh, well if you have some rules and check in with each other before having sex with other people that’s fine.

Seriously, the NY Times title was ironic enough, calling relationships with built-in infidelity “successful.”   I guess if you are redefining marriage you can redefine whatever you like.

And the fact that the “pro-gay Christians” ignore this rampant infidelity while advocating for “same-sex marriage” because the unions are allegedly “loving” is just more proof of their being false teachers.

Schadenfreude alert: Radical feminists blasted for being too conservative.

Yep. Apparently the radical Left is trans-phobic and insists on having female-only events — by which they mean real females and not just pretend ones.  It reminds me of the lesbian couple who complained to the Houston Chronicle about the family section of the gay pride parade being put near the S&M groups.  It is fascinating to watch people pull up the perversion drawbridge once they’ve crossed their favorite part.

Go read this entire post.  Yes, it can hard to follow with the alphabet soup of perversions that McCain describes, but you owe it to yourself.  Via The Rocky Horror Dating Game: Translesbians Encounter Queer Hate.  

Radical egalitarianism is a sort of philosophical insanity, premised as it is on the idea that everything is equal, even things that are fundamentally different. When you begin with an obvious falsehood as the premise of your argument, the conclusion will necessarily be madness.

Ten days ago, I brought you up-to-date about an emerging controversy on the extremist fringe. Radical feminists who wish to exclude trannies from their events are accused of “transphobia”:

RadFem 2013 was a conference in London, which resulted in a gigantic controversy because radical feminists insisted on excluding the “transgendered” from their female-only event, and one of the featured speakers, Australian lesbian feminist Professor Sheila Jeffreys, was about to publish a new book, Gender Hurts: A Feminist Analysis of the Politics of Transgenderism, that was deeply offensive to the “T” people represented in the LGBT acronym.

How crazy did that conflict become? At one point in April, the venue tried to cancel the event after discovering that “certain language was used and some statements were made about transgender people that would go against our equalities and diversity policy.” Another RadFem conference organizer, Cathy Brennan of Baltimore, was meanwhile all over Twitter announcing “transwomen are men” and comparing them to MRAs (men’s rights advocates).

Brennan’s outspoken hostility to “transwomen” — including those she calls “Pretendbians” — takes it to a whole new level of crazy:

Basically, Cathy Brennan is the Fred Phelps of radical lesbian feminists. Brennan’s message seems to be, “Feminism is for man-hating socialist homosexual perverts and we don’t want to associate with a bunch of surgically mutilated psychotic freaks.”

Gosh, it’s kind of hard to choose sides here, isn’t it?

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This is the logical consequence of mocking God’s created order.  If you feed lust and rebellion you don’t satisfy it, you make it grow.  And this is what it looks like as it grows.  This is a sad lot of horribly confused and/or evil people.  They need Jesus.

Detroit Baptist leader resigns after announcing she is not a Christian

The actual link says, “Detroit Baptist leader resigns after announcing she married a woman,” but I’ll stick with my title.

Facing a backlash from conservatives in her congregation, a noted Christian leader in Detroit resigned Friday from her church after announcing earlier this month she had married a woman.

Bishop Allyson D. Nelson Abrams stepped down from Zion Progress Baptist Church, where she had served for five years as its first female pastor. Her announcement from the pulpit earlier this month that she had married a woman stunned many local Baptists.

“Female pastor” is as oxymoronic as “same-sex marriage,” so I’m not sure why they were so stunned (though of course many male false teachers hold anti-biblical views on marriage as well).

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Abrams, 43, used to be married to a man, but she told congregants Oct. 6 she was in love with Diana Williams, a bishop emeritus with the Imani Temple African-American Catholic Congregation in Washington, D.C., a church that broke off from the Catholic Church. The two married in March in Iowa, where same-sex marriage is legal.

So she actually got “married” much earlier after divorcing a man and didn’t tell her congregation.  Sounds like serial lying to me.

Given the conservative views of many Baptists on the issue of homosexuality and female pastors, Abrams’ announcement caused an intense debate among local Christians. She said many supported her decision to come out while others opposed her gay marriage. Some urged her to stay with the church, but Abrams said she resigned because she didn’t want to further create division. Some in the congregation had found out about her same-sex marriage before she made her Oct. 6 announcement and were making it an issue that was dividing the church.

“I know how important it is for congregations to stay together,” she told the Free Press. “I didn’t want to split the church any further over this issue.”

So she was surprised that it would be divisive?!

Abrams cited biblical verses to support the idea that same-sex relationships are allowable under Christian teachings, including Luke 7:1-10, which talks about the love a man has for his male servant.

Misinterpreting the passage that badly should even disqualify a man from preaching.  Read it yourself and ask if supports homosexual behavior.  Pro-LGBTQX “pastors” rely on biblical ignorance when making claims like that.  And since they are the church leaders, they obviously don’t want people reading the book for themselves.

Saying that love is a big part of Christianity, Abrams said: “We all know that we’ve been made in God’s image, and so no matter what you look like, no matter who you are, no matter what your orientation is,” we should be free to love whom we want.

Foolish statements like that are impossible to make if you actually read the Bible and take it seriously.  Using her logic, anything you want to do must be OK.  There would be no sins.

And she begs the question by assuming that love has to involve sex.

“Love is something that’s supposed to be unconditional,” she added. “And as Christians, if anybody is supposed to be loving, we are.”

Again, that doesn’t mean sex has to be part of the relationships.

Abrams, who has a doctorate degree in theology, said her views about love and orientation changed a “little over a year ago.”

A doctorate in theology?!  Wow.

So in less than a year she went from alleged Bible-believer to support “same-sex marriage” to “marrying” a woman?  I’m skeptical.

“I progressed in my theology and came to the point where I would love whichever came to me. I wasn’t just open to (a specific) gender, I was open to love in whatever way the Lord would bless me.”

Well, gee, since she blamed God for it she must be right . . .

That’s just blasphemy.

. . . The Rev. Charles C. Adams, the presiding pastor of one of Detroit’s biggest churches, Hartford Memorial Baptist Church, said he supports Abrams.

“Bishop Abrams is a very intelligent, conscientious and progressive minister,” he said. “She has done a lot to help people.

“She, herself did not seek to make this an issue,” he added. “It was an issue that from my understanding was ignited by rumors and innuendos … somebody looking up the marriage certificate on the Internet.”

Another false teacher weighs in. Yeah, it was someone else’s fault.  How dare they speak the truth that their pastor “married” a woman and didn’t tell them!

Adams, who supports gay marriage in terms of constitutional rights, said there needs to be more discussion of this issue in the African-American Christian community.

By denying gay marriage, “we are denying people equal protection under the law,” Adams said. “There is no justification for that. We have same-gender couples working in every sector of society and they are not being treated fairly.”

Wrong.  You don’t have a right to a square circle or to a “same-sex union of a man and a woman.”

Others disagree with Abrams, saying she is violating Christian doctrine. Elder Levon Yuille, pastor of The Bible Church in Ypsilanti, said that gay marriage is “diametrically opposed to the teachings of the Bible.” Yuille said that unless Abrams stops being in a gay relationship, she should stop preaching.

“To be in accordance with scripture, she would have to give up that type of homosexual lifestyle,” he said.

 

Finally, some sanity!  Although she should stop preaching for a host of reasons.

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Abrams said her interpretation of scripture is compatible with same-sex relationships. She said that Greek words used in the Bible,“entimos doulos pais, can be interpreted together to refer to a male lover.

That is a terrible analysis.  More here.  Why doesn’t she look at Romans 1?

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

Back to the article . . .

She acknowledges there can be varying views on this issue.

“People have the right to interpret scripture whatever way they please,” she said. “I respect difference of opinions.”

As for what’s next for her, she said she’s considering joining two other denominations but would not say which ones. She said will continue to preach the gospel.

“I’m still going to preach and teach and do what God has called me to do,” she said.

More blasphemy.  God hasn’t called her to anything she’s done yet.  Why start now?

Irreconcilable beliefs

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A favorite updated for your reading pleasure.

Some folks hold views that are not only wrong but irreconcilable as well.  The only consistent theme is that they are all in direct opposition to the Word of God.

Consider how some groups simultaneously try to hold two or more of these views:

  • Men and women aren’t different.
  • “Gender fluidity” means boys and girls as young as elementary school are told they can choose what gender they are.  Even though there isn’t a difference.  And their perceived gender can change.
  • Homosexuals and bisexuals are “born that way” and can’t be changed.
  • If you declare that you are now gay, then that means you were always gay.  But if you were gay and now declare yourself straight then you are still gay.
  • It is mandatory that homosexuals be able to marry someone of the same sex.  A gay guy can’t just marry a female with more masculine characteristics, or a biological female who thinks she is really a man.
  • Sperm banks for Lesbians are important, because it is important for the women to experience pregnancy and have their own child.  But having a father around – or even knowing who he is – is completely irrelevant to the child.
  • Homosexual orientation is driven by “nature,” so it is moral.
  • Homosexual parenthood obviously defies “nature,” but it is moral as well.
  • It is irrelevant whether your parents are M/F, M/M, F/F, or even a set of two.
  • HIV/AIDS is not a gay disease, and you are homophobic if you suggest it is.
  • If you don’t support more funding for HIV/AIDS you are homophobic.
  • Homosexual behavior is OK because we observe it in the animal kingdom, even though animals do all sorts of things that we’d never apply that logic to (e.g., the female praying mantis eating the male after mating, dogs humping everything in sight — including your leg or your coffee table, etc.).

Consider the net result of the typical gay adoption argument: Having a same-sex partner is paramount, but the sex of the parents is irrelevant.  How can that be?

I am saying that public policies should not encourage gay parenting and definitely shouldn’t force adoption agencies to provide children to gay couples.  Exceptions can make bad rules.  I am also saying that it is ridiculous to consider phrases such as traditional family to be offensive.

Once again, the culture is putting the desires of adults over the needs of children.  It is the same lie that was foundational to the easy divorce and abortion movements: Adults are vulnerable, children are not.

Lies.  Big, big lies.

Free speech is so 20th century.

The only good thing about the across-the-board attempts to limit the free speech of Conservatives is that it reveals the very low confidence of the opposition.  As a Christian, I would never want to limit the ability of other religions to express their views.  I am all for the free expression of views in the market place of ideas.  I have confidence that my worldview holds up quite nicely.

If you care about free speech you should be chilled at what is going on in the U.S.  and in other Western countries (which inevitably ends up here).  Here are just a few examples.

Conservative views in general: See the Obama administration’s War on Fox  and the “Fairness” doctrine.

Pro-lifer: Pro-legalized abortionists shouting down pro-life speakers on a college campus in Canada — you know, one of those bastions of free speech and “challenge authority” philosophies.  How dare you mention in public the scientific fact that life begins at conception?

Intelligent Design: Darwinists Launch Cyber Attack Against Intelligent Design Website — Ever hear of Christians attacking atheist web sites like that?  Wow, these people are so fearful of anyone challenging their worldview.  Of course, you should also consider the whole Expelled! movie.

Hate speech laws:  Coming soon to a country near you: Woman gets police visit after writing letter protesting gay pride parade

After witnessing a gay pride march, committed Christian Pauline Howe wrote to the council to complain that the event had been allowed to go ahead.

But instead of a simple acknowledgement, she received a letter warning her she might be guilty of a hate crime and that the matter had been passed to police.

But don’t worry, if you are a Liberal you can publicly label a woman as a whore and have no consequences.

Roundup

“My Train Wreck Conversion — As a leftist lesbian professor, I despised Christians. Then I somehow became one.” — An amazing story and a testimony to the power of God’s word. It is a great example of what we should and shouldn’t do to reach the lost.

I have not forgotten the blood Jesus surrendered for this life.

And my former life lurks in the edges of my heart, shiny and still like a knife.

Here’s a video of an interview with her.

Southern Poverty Law Center Inspires Floyd Lee Corkins’ Attempted Mass Shooting — All the Leftist (real) hate speech about (imagined) hate speech is really quite deadly.

Corkins said he intended to “kill as many as possible and smear the Chick-Fil-A sandwiches in victims’ faces, and kill the guard.” The prosecutor said they reviewed the family computer and found that he identified his targets on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s web site.

Then there is the case of the guy who learned to hate whites while in college, so he went and shot a few.  Lovely.

I shared this on Facebook a while back but was thinking of it this week for some reason.

Line of the night at kids Bible study at inner city church:

Me: Do you know who Peter was?
Kids: No.
Me: He was one of Jesus’ disciples and followed him around for 3 years.
4th grader: Whoa — stalker!

He also had some colorful reasons for wanting to stay single (we were doing a lesson on decision making): 1. Girls have cooties 2. He didn’t want to share his stuff 3. He didn’t want to do “what you have to do to make more kids.”

I hope the Boy Scouts do the right thing.  Militant homosexuals in the woods with boys.  What could go wrong?

But follow the money in this case.  The LGBTQX lobby is very good at threatening corporations (I saw it clearly at HP), and those corporations like UPS are threatening not to support the Scouts.  And the leaders of the scouts make $400,000 – 800,000 per year.  Do you think they want to lose that?

Stan has a handy list of the constitutions of all 50 states.  Oddly, every one of them mentions God.  Go figure.

Abortionist sentenced to 15 years for drowning born-alive infant dies, aged 84 – one of those extra-creepy abortionist stories the mainstream media won’t tell you about. 

Workers at Showery’s abortion facility testified that they saw the baby girl – who was about a foot long when curled up, weighed an estimated 3 to 6 pounds, and had light brown hair – struggling to breathe as Showery tried to smother her face with the placenta.  When that failed, Showery dropped her into a bucket of water.  The workers testified that they saw bubbles rising to the surface.

According to the workers, Showery then put the infant in a plastic bag, tied the bag shut and put it aside.  At first, the bag moved as though someone were breathing inside, then the bag stopped moving. Later, Showery ordered the workers to place the baby’s body in the freezer where other fetal remains were stored.

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In his obituary, his family remembered him as “loved, regarded, respected, charming and captivating.”

When your behavior is so murderous that even your fellow abortion employees testify against you, that is stunning.

Why are the media and politicians ignoring the needs and desires of women to have guns?

I think this view is not something that the media is covering. I think it’s something that people haven’t really considered, and I really wanted to speak to women about this very important Constitutional right. And explain to them the cases. I had an Appendix which had twenty-one examples of women defending themselves against violent attack with firearms. . . .
I have an example of a woman who was attacked by five armed intruders. I had an example where a woman defended her child from being kidnapped. I had multiple examples of women with babies, with young children, trying to defend themselves. And so no one who criticized me bothered to read the written testimony that I submitted to the Senate.